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Thu, Apr 7th 2016 3:33pm —It never made much sense that ripping CDs in the US is considered legal, while ripping DVDs is somehow horrible piracy. If anything, it seemed to be an artifact of history. Either way, it was much more difficult for people to rip DVDs. However, whenever the issue would come up, most people would point to SlySoft's AnyDVD product, which was a clunky, but functional bit of software for getting around DRM and ripping DVDs. The company was based in Antigua and had been around for years. So it took some people by surprise when it announced it was earlier this year. It looked like Hollywood had done what it normally does and scared an innovative company it didn't like out of business.
But, as reader Derek points out to us, it looks like it only took a week or so before former SlySoft employees resurfaced in Belize with a new offering, using a somewhat similar logo.As the RedFox folks explain things:The RedFox team consists of former SlySoft developers and staff members who were left without a job after the company was forced to close down for good on February 22nd, 2016.It looked like the fox would be gone for good as its burrow ceased to exist with SlySoft.Being left without any infrastructure and nothing but our forum still running, we were about to give up. After the shock wore off we considered our options and the overwhelming support of our community convinced us to pick up the pieces and continue the development.It kind of makes you wonder what the hell is the point of trying to shut down a tool like SlySoft in the first place, doesn't it?Filed Under:,Companies. The very fact that DMCA says YOU cannot rip a DVD that YOU legally purchased is an arbitrary distinction that renders the property rights of the purchaser null and void.And since the DMCA was enacted AFTER the DVD was created (1998 vs 1995) it is a wholly arbitrary distinction, not a technical requirement, that serves to make the legal purchaser a criminal if they try to rip the DVD to use the information in a way of their choosing.Hollywood - making criminals out of people who actually purchase their products. The thing is - it does not matter, if there is 'some kind of copy protection', or nothing at all. CSS is badly designed and has been 'broken' by a teenager. Since then it does not work.I can come up with other 'kinds of copy protection'.
Or better yet - just xor everything with 0x5a. Or even better - xor it with 0. And then you're not allowed to 'break' it. So - the 'copy protection' is irrelevant (as I can just xor with 0), only the 'we do not want you to copy' is.And then the difference between CDs and DVDs seems more bizarre yet. 'right to make a personal copy'Sadly this doesn't exist. It's a great idea though. You should definitely write your legislator to amend the Constitution.But a more reasonable course of action would be to be to repeal the anti-circumvention clause of the DMCA or simply stop buying products with DRM.
The only reason DRM exists is because people are willing to continually give money to these large powerful corporations that do it.Luckily that's beginning to change with the success of DRM-free media. Thank goodness for Slysoft. They allow me to I need to do with the media I have purchased. For example, we have seen amazing results teaching ours kids baby sign language. I have purchased at least 20+ DVD's from signingtime.com because they are the best. To protect my investment I use slysoft to rip my DVD's and put the rip up on my personal Plex media server.
From there, my wife and I use our Roku box to play whatever show we want to play when we want to play it without fear of messing up a 'master' DVD.Notice the deliberate use of the word 'my'? It is because that is exactly what they are. Mine.I could go on but I am just very grateful that slysoft gives me ability to do what I want with the media I own. Of course this is pure greed. On the part of Slysoft. Need more cash?
Just close the company and open it under a new name. That way you don't have to honor any of the previous lifetime licenses and you can sell all new ones. This is not the first software that I have purchased with a life time data subscription where the company came up with a 'new version' or 'Different program ' that amazingly wouldn't work with your old data unless you bought another subscription. Greed, greed, greed!.
DMCA has no legal teeth. Its essentially a scare tactic of the film industry that many folks on this forum are reacting to as if its true when it isn't.
Here's something neither techdirt nor anyone else explained. How did Guiana get forced into putting slysoft out of business. Why is that such a mystery? I'd appreciate an answer and noone is providing it.DMCA is a sham. The Sony Supreme Court ruling allowed the making of vhs copies of films. The studios still tried to stop copying but didn't succeed.
The Studios tried to get laws through Congress years later to prevent copying, but silicon valley's lobbyists stopped it in its tracks.DMCA is just a big scare. The studios employ outsource people to attempt to shake down those who the studios can INTIMIDATE into paying them a fee for making a copy from a torrent. The warnings on DVD menus are crap. They sometimes mis-state the truth of the law, sometimes state it truthfully, but in either case, they are not actionable crimes, they are merely civil matters. Outsourcers can try to shake down torrent users if they can find out who they are, but there's no legal machinery behind them. The cases don't got to court.Most Internet companies comply in part with the DMCA notices, but withhold the shakedown language from the emails because they righteously refuse to take part in a shakedown.
At bottom, most of the big internet operations support their customers in these matters, and only comply with DMCA by sending the edited notice. A few of the smaller companies include the complete DMCA and shakedown. But most don't. I've heard of no one being taken to court, but it is possible. Because of the Sony rule which the studios have never contested because they're afraid they'd lose again, that is where the matter stands.Why haven't journalists learned why Antigua shut Slysoft down?. I have an optical drive that allows me to play the copy protected media/discs.
I also have software that allows me to view what the optical drive is playing. With this being said, do I now have the right to record my own desktop or take screenshots of my own desktop? How far can legalese go in terms of this example. I am clearly not breaking any copy protection, nor am I using any software that does so. Can 'they' actually argue and or tell me that I cannot record video of my own personal computers desktop just because I just so happen to be watching a movie? I just think that, this is valid. It scares me to think about such things, but we must!!!.
I suppose these days it doesn't matter as much as it once did. CDs are almost extinct and soon, I believe DVDs and the like will also be gone. Companies pay for using the digital data and we pay only to view/listen and never will we own it. I figure that this is the solution to their issues. This upsets me because I really enjoy ripping CDs and other media. Mainly for the fact that I prefer different qualities some of which I cannot find from certain companies. Also, can you purchase an MP4/H.264/AAC movie to play on your mboile devices as quickly as you could purchase a regualr DVD or Blue Ray movie?
Or how about purchasing nice CDs in flac? Not as easy as buying that regular CD and ripping it to flac OR mp3 yourself?
Finally, I notice that when I rip my CDs to mp3, the quality of my rips are better than what i hear coming from itunes. That's just sad:D. I questioned the links between Slysoft and RedFox on the RedFox forum and suggested that a better policy would be to be more honest about them, I have subsequently had my IP address blocked so I can now no longer access the forum (actually they blocked the IP address at my local coffee shop but that’s by the by).If you wish to enter into a financial relationship with a company who have such a dictatorial approach to the people who pay their salaries then that’s down to you but these people now have my personal details and have (theoretically) blocked me from contacting them. Just remember the same thing could happen to you if you sign up and have a problem.There is a debate about whether they have exploited people financially with regard to having to re-purchase the software.
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They claim not as ‘there is no connection with Slysoft’ (see below). Think about this – if it wasn’t to do with finances then they could have just carried on with the exact same model, with the exact same customers, with the exact same licences as with Slysoft and they would have continued with the exact same revenue stream.
The fact that they have torn up the old Slysoft lifetime licence agreement to ask those customers to pay again is proof that it is financial. They needed the money to continue despite there being virtually no set up costs to continue trading. Did they do this deliberately? They won’t tell you so make up your own mind based on the evidence.Redfox claim there is ABSOLUTELY NO connection between them and Slysoft. There are two moderators on their forum – RedFox1 and Ch3vr0n who will point this out to you if you try to claim differently – try it, you’ll get a response within a minute and the thread will be closed.
The thread that I originally added to was ‘tidied up’ and closed and then I got a PM from RedFox1 warning me about what I was writing and he then put an automatic follow on any future posts I made. These people have serious control issues.I pointed out that the logo is the same with the addition of a Zorro mask, THEY have stated that The RedFox team consists of former SlySoft developers and staff members, the website was identical (just find and replace Slysoft with RedFox), the program is the same just re-badged, they still run the old Slysoft OPD database, old Slysoft software still points to upgrading to RedFox software - the list is endless but they state that because it is a different CEO and Slysoft was a company but RedFox is a ‘closed project’ then there is NO connection. They will not concede any connection and this is my beef and what is really riling a lot of people.
It’s as though if they do they will have to honour Slysoft’s lifetime licence or something. This is the attitude of the people you will be dealing with if you give them your money.My last point is this – if you are contemplating a lifetime licence go to speak to some of those who bought a Slysoft lifetime licence shortly before they closed and see if it is a good idea. It is an atrocious business model – think of it as an everlasting lightbulb.
Once everyone has got one there is no more money coming in – and sooner or later the revenue stream will again collapse and the company will close and rise again like a greedy phoenix somewhere else. There's no law against ripping DVDs in the states if you can manage encrypting, in the event there is any. There mostly isn't. Once in awhile, some dvds will encrypt, mostly not. That $250,000 fine loudly stated at the beginning of some dvds is a farce. The law only applies to folks who re-sell dvd copies in bulk.
The producers are attempting to scare people out of using software to make copies. In fact, the Sony decision regarding videotape recorders, now ancient history, still applies. The Supremes said one could record. The MPAA and its members chose not to appeal again when they moved to the DVD for fear they would lose as they did in the Sony decision. Later, a new MPAA head replacing Jack Valenti, tried to get Congress to pass SOFA laws that would have prevented DVD ripping. Lobbyists for Apple, Google, Microsoft, Amazon and others killed the bill dead in Congress, which refused to consider the MPAA's pet bill. The result is the Sony decision, lacking any other on the subject, still stands.
I suspect the point of streaming is really the regaining of control of the video in the home marketplace once DVDs are no longer distributed. I don't think DVD blanks will ever disappear, however, even if the commercial DVD does, and I don't believe the commercial dvd will disappear either. Its just far better than the quality one gets from streaming.
Streaming simply isn't first rate. Even if streaming was the only way for home distribution, I believe the canny outside folks who make freeware, would create some that works anyhow and distribute it for nothing as they have in the past. That's one of the reasons the industry is generally moving toward reducing software ON COMPUTERS, shifting nearly everything to the cloud, leaving computer owners unable to use freeware to perform miracles on computer hard drives. If they could the video industry and others would simply eliminate the canny and useful freeware that has been the hallmark of the net from its first moment.
The net is changing, however. The future workarounds aren't always immediately visible. Add Your Comment.
I purchased a lifetime AnyDVD HD licence (Slysoft). Now it seems I will have to buy such a licence all over for Redfox AnyDVD HD?? And the price is very high. And the risk of Redfox being closed down soon seems also very high - you have the same 'legal structure' as Slysoft had.I am writing this to tell you while I support your efforts and are with you in principle, the price is too high. Specially seeing that the risk is so high as well.I am not paid in dollars, pounds or Euro's.
The currency where I live trades between 15 to 22 to 1 re the dollar, Euro and pound.You are in fact asking me to fork out 2,000 bucks for a new licence - with a high risk that it will not survive for long.Sorry (very sorry), but no. Totally gutted to find that having paid for a lifetime license, I now have to do it again, less than 2 years into my existing license.Understand that the old company died and this is a new one, but also know that a number of the organizers/owners have moved across.This feels a bit like a cash grab, taking advantage of all the lifetime subscribers.I'm willing to pay more for a great product and solid service, but asking lifetime subscribers to pay the WHOLE €109 whack again is a bit cheeky.How about an additional discount/voucher for the loyal customers with valid Slysoft licenses?? Totally gutted to find that having paid for a lifetime license, I now have to do it again, less than 2 years into my existing license.Understand that the old company died and this is a new one, but also know that a number of the organizers/owners have moved across.This feels a bit like a cash grab, taking advantage of all the lifetime subscribers.I'm willing to pay more for a great product and solid service, but asking lifetime subscribers to pay the WHOLE €109 whack again is a bit cheeky.How about an additional discount/voucher for the loyal customers with valid Slysoft licenses??
Click to expand.I have legal lifetime anydvd hd slysoft license but now I not buy new license because is full price for new clients and discount just 20% off this is impossible for old clients who pay high price.I have buy this in 2008 december for both# Quantity1 Bundle Package 69.00 - AnyDVD Lifetime + CloneCD Lifetime2 Discount -13.80Total Amount EUR 55.20Next have buy anydvd upgrade to HD lifetime version just for 30 EUR.And me cost for complete pay 85.20 EURI am not satisfied with the final decision about the price and will not buy a license. Also my friends ( 40 clients 2009-2010 after my recommendation ) that I have uttered this program before but took licenses are now reluctant to take a license that is already paid for it. Totally gutted to find that having paid for a lifetime license, I now have to do it again, less than 2 years into my existing license.Understand that the old company died and this is a new one, but also know that a number of the organizers/owners have moved across.This feels a bit like a cash grab, taking advantage of all the lifetime subscribers.I'm willing to pay more for a great product and solid service, but asking lifetime subscribers to pay the WHOLE €109 whack again is a bit cheeky.How about an additional discount/voucher for the loyal customers with valid Slysoft licenses??
Once again, it needs to be made clear that SLYSOFT was forcibly shut down and is now out of business.Unfortunately, that meant all LTLs ended. I'm just glad the employees decided to continue with further developing the product rather than moving on to something totally different and letting AnyDVD just die. Therefore, I grudgingly but gladly bought a new LTL yesterday and recommend you all do the same, understanding that this will allow the software guys to continue working on countering new decryption schemes. I am sympathetic to the issues that led to the shutdown of SlySoft and am hopeful that you guys can find success with your new business. However, I agree with the other posts here that loyalty is a two-way street. Some level of understanding and appreciation should be extended to those who have purchased a lifetime license (rather than the same 20% discount given to everyone else).
In the end, I understand that you will do what you must do.We all understand that it is a 'new' company and that you guys apparently went without income for a few months while sorting this out. However, the economy is hard on everyone and money is harder to come by for all of us than it once was. Trust in a 'lifetime' license is another issue that many here are still feeling the sting over. I do not feel comfortable (in either a monetarily or trusting manner) re-purchasing another licence. I guess I will let it lapse and begin looking elsewhere.
As posted above, it MAY be more expensive but knowing the risk of having a lifetime license voided (through little fault of Redfox or SlySoft) coupled with the lack of any initiative to sooth the sting felt by loyal customers is enough to fear further investment.All I ask is that you email your former lifetime customers in the event you guys change your mind. I love your product but as things stand feel the need to begin looking elsewhere. I don't understand your concept of 'loyalty'. If by loyal you mean that you bought the software a while ago and have enjoyed the numerous updates, then I would classify you as a loyal user. One-way street.
But a loyal customer would understand that Slysoft is gone, the developers could have moved on but decided to continue developing AnyDVD, and need to make a financially sound business of the venture which will require funds (as Chevron is fond of saying, this has been discussed ad nauseum, and I so agree). For this, we get continued support for decryption. This is genuine two-way street. I believe that 98% of the code in the RedFox version is the same as it was in the Slysoft version. And the all of the programmers in Slysoft has moved to work for RedFox.SO IT IS THE SAME PRODUCT!!!YOR ARE THE SAME COMPANY!!!RedFox are really pushing the limits of what can be considered a fair business model. They are misusing the legal issues they had to punish loyal customers to buy the products twice.
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That is unethical behaviour.I’m really disappointed over the way RedFox have choosen to handle this issue. There should have been a licences transfer for those of us who purchased a lifetime licences, with a symbolic transfer fee of.